So, Tesla's most controversial event arguably ever. Before I jump in, apologies for this video being days late. If you missed it, Ashley and I evacuated for Hurricane Milton, so the past 10 days or so have been quite chaotic, so thank you for being patient. And no worries, I plan to get everybody back up to speed with the news starting tomorrow as well. I know people are coming here in three broad camps, those that are pumped for the long-term future of Tesla, those that are quite upset and disappointed with Tesla and the rest who are somewhere in between. My goal really is not to change anyone's mind, that's not usually the aim of this channel anyway. Typically, it's just to inform everyone of the latest happenings and then for event reviews, it's really just to share my honest opinions and what I'm thinking and feeling personally. While of course, simultaneously trying to be valuable to all of you. I gotta be honest, when the stream ended abruptly, I did say, oh no. I was hoping for at least another 30-45 minutes of demos or explanations. I think as a group hungry for data and to see behind Tesla's curtain, that's to be expected and fair. Plus, there was a medical emergency before the event that delayed it, so maybe they were on a timeline, I'm not trying to argue that, just something to be aware of. A quick aside, at the beginning of the stream, when Elon got in the cybercab and they had the music playing, I was thinking, oh boy, this is going to be the most epic product unveil of all time. I did really have a visceral reaction for that and also when they pulled up the Revovin, LOL Elon, but more on that later.
To everybody saying that we learned nothing new from this event, if that's truly the case, then why didn't you tell us that Tesla was launching Unsupervised FSD in California and Texas next year with all Tesla vehicles in production? This has been a critical question that people like Gary Black have been posing for a long time. Now, in fairness, a theme you'll hear throughout this video is questions. We all have so many questions. It would have been great to learn in what cities, anything about how the app will work. Will it be Tesla owners deploying their cars or Tesla deploying cars directly? Both? Any progress on insurance for fleet owners? I think you get the idea. I mean, Elon only spoke for 19 minutes and 14 seconds. For how much time Tesla spent on the event and all of the work leading up to it, I certainly think the presentation should have been at least twice as long. But the market will likely start pricing in Tesla's new line of business when the announcements are made about a firm timeline and in what cities. But given the lack of clarity here, it feels like Tesla is guessing and banking on actually solving for Unsupervised next year, which is of course possible but definitely not a guarantee. An update on the regulatory environment would have been appreciated. If Tesla expects to get approval in Texas and California, what's the expectation for the speed of rollout after that? These questions are the reasons Wall Street and many others are so disappointed in the event. The lack of detail in concrete plans only helps those looking to buy Tesla shares at a discount. Another question, will Tesla need a remote control center for its robotaxies? You know, someone to control the vehicles if and when something goes wrong? Beyond some of these questions though, Lars did confirm that FSD with hardware 3 will be Robotaxi ready. I feel like people are going to gloss over this but it's a big deal. There are millions of cars with hardware 3 so if Tesla can pull this off, that's just that many more vehicles that could immediately become a robotaxie which will benefit the owners and Tesla. I'm sure many are quite skeptical of this claim, I understand that given the quantized FSD model Tesla already had to roll out initially to hardware 3 but to hear Lars continue to reaffirm this is certainly bullish in that Tesla is confident and is still planning to make this a reality. Moving to the CyberCab. I love the design, if you've been watching you will have heard me say one of the bigger risks was Tesla doing something crazy for the design of this vehicle that needs to have mass market appeal and I think this design nails that. It's futuristic but not polarizing. Clearly, most of the design choices are optimized for low cost manufacturing like no rear window and framed windows which will hopefully make these quieter inside. The exterior panels are not made of stainless steel despite the looks, the mass and the cost of stainless steel is not ideal for a high efficiency robotaxie. A lead engineer for the CyberCab hinted that whatever Tesla is using for the CyberCab it does not mean painting the exterior. The word was it had stealth titanium color wraps possibly on carbon fiber but by the time this goes into production the materials could change. The engineer also said the seats do indeed recline which was a concern of mine especially for sleeping. In their standard position they are more reclined than usual but it sounds like they will go back even further which I think is a big deal and they do look quite comfortable. It should have the biggest screen yet for a Tesla at 20 and a half inches up from 18 and a half on the CyberCuck and only 15 on the 3 and Y.
There are only 3 interior buttons, 2 window switches and the dome light switch. Everything else is on the screen or voice commands. The butterfly doors should make entry and exit easy and they close when the seat belt is fastened or there is an option in the UI. But not just that, this door style should allow the cleaning robots to get inside the car much easier as well. On that front is Tesla making these robots in house or sourcing them. Where will Tesla's first cleaning hub be? Just so many things Tesla could have elaborated on. And I want to be clear, nobody knows the range or the battery pack specs for sure but top gear talk to some Tesla engineers and they are saying it will be around a 40kWh pack, 200 miles of range and efficiency of 5.5 miles per kilowatt hour. And given that Tesla is now hiring for a senior cell materials engineer for an LFP cathode, perhaps Tesla is looking to make a 4680 LFP after all. This would lend more credibility to that information report we shared a few weeks back.
Perhaps one of my biggest questions is around induction charging. Not just the efficiency of it but the fact Elon said the cybercab will not have a charge port. So let's say I want to own one of these and go on a road trip. I'm not going to be able to supercharge it. How is Tesla going to roll out induction charging infrastructure? What's the plan here? In the presentation they showed a 19kWh charging speed but this tells us nothing about a charging curve or peak speeds. I'm assuming that an induction charging hub may be cheaper to build than a regular supercharger site given there's less cabling and materials required. But sadly Tesla did nothing to calm my concerns about this vehicle not having a port to allow it to supercharge. On the design the cab is separated from the trunk area which unlocks more HVAC efficiency not having to cool or heat the trunk space as well. Holmars did mention that the driverless Teslas were running FSD13 at the event but I would not classify that as official. The word was some engineers were quite optimistic about FSD version 13 but we know every release is hyped so we'll see.
I've seen a lot of people saying Tesla will just put a wheel in pedals on this cybercab and make it the more affordable Tesla but both Franz and Lars have said Tesla has no plans to do this. Publicly Tesla stance is still that it will launch a more affordable vehicle sometime next year but I think there's at least a non-zero percent chance they do scrap it if FSD progresses well over the next six months. If the cost of the cybercab is under $30,000 as Elon said that has to include the cost of FSD as well because the car without wheels and pedals without the FSD package is rather useless. The cybercab does have a front bumper camera and I really hope the new Model Y has one as well for front and parking although honestly I'm not optimistic about it. When it comes to the trunk design of the cybercab the hatchback style is great creating a massive opening but it's just hard to tell how much full-sized luggage is going to fit in here given the massive size of the wheel wells since the back of the vehicle is low to the ground and has quite a taper for aero efficiency. Again I think a demonstration of putting some full-sized luggage or some golf clubs to let people know how big the trunk actually is would have been awesome to spend some time on. And somehow whether or not there's a front in this vehicle is still a mystery. Interestingly the front wheels were 18 inches and the rear wheels were 21 which is part of why the wheel wells in the trunk are so large. An explanation of why Tesla landed on that mixed fit wheel set would have been nice as well.
What I think is one of the biggest news items is the fact that this vehicle will be available for consumers to purchase so it won't just be Tesla deploying them directly. I for one am highly interested in owning a small fleet of them not just for money but to spread the Tesla an autonomous message in my area so I was very pleased to hear this. But again still plenty of questions like how the revenue will be split between the owners and Tesla. The production timeline sounded pretty iffy but before 2027 is the word for now. Just don't forget Apple spent $10 billion on its autonomous project over years and effectively has nothing to show for it.
Waymo may be operating driverless rides but you can't go and buy one for yourself and as we all know their path to scaling and profitability is far murkier than Teslas. And if over time the cybercap cost is around 40 cents per mile which that number includes taxes and everything else as Elon said Waymo and Cruz and others are going to have a very difficult if not impossible time competing at that price point. And I know Elon talked about the Amazon Web Services opportunity and over speccing AI5 but it's going to take us into the 2030s before Tesla gets anywhere close to a 100 million vehicle fleet. So in my opinion that's still a back burner moonshot rather than something that will move the needle in the next few years.
Shifting to Optimus I'm not going to spend as much time here because we just don't know where Tesla's progress really lies. We know Optimus was being assisted by humans via teleoperation but to what degree remains the question. I totally understand Elon was trying to paint a picture of the future so that's why the bots were teleoperated. But for me I'd rather just see exactly where they are with actual progress in making them autonomous. But in fairness Elon literally said during the presentation if you could look into a crystal ball and be in the future now that's what we want. So this event was clearly meant to give us a glimpse into that future and that reality not to lay out a detailed road map of how it's going to happen which again is why many people are disappointed. And look honestly I would rather have the latter too just like many of you but it clearly was not Tesla's objective. And we're also left wondering if the clips Tesla showed in the presentation of Optimus were also being teleoperated or they learned those behaviors from video.
I've heard the narrative out there that Tesla could have a business line teleoperating Optimus. In sure there are some use cases for this technology but this is not Tesla's end game with this project. I think teleoperation will mostly just be a tool that Tesla uses to help Optimus become autonomous. Tesla building a teleoperation business feels akin to Tesla using LiDAR. However, let's be real here. What other robotics company has shown a display of 20 plus humanoids interacting with a group of people in real time. Even given the human assistance it's still a pretty impressive feat and not something that should be completely written off. But if Optimus is really going to be a general purpose robot that people can own, the dexterity is going to need to be much improved from what we saw at Wii Robot. Simple tasks like picking up bags and operating the beer tap looked quite clunky. However, they did have a display of the new hand which goes up to the forearm with 22 degrees of freedom and that looks much closer to what Optimus will need from a hardware perspective. But likely the hardest challenge with Optimus is going to be the AI, aka the software problem and from that angle we're still mostly in the dark.
And for the robo van. Now, Franz said Elon's pronunciation was a joke but I happen to like it so I may stick with it. At no time line was given for this vehicle, this feels like a project for the end of this decade. My initial thought is why is the ground clearance so low? Granted, I have flooding on my mind after Hurricane Milton but a lot of folks are saying how this will disrupt the van and RV life. On that point I'm not so sure, I can't really see this thing off-roading to get to scenic locations. Plus we have no idea what type of configurations will be available. Elon did say it can seat up to 20 but if you add two more seats I'm not sure how the riders would get into the second rows. Of course there could be different seat types or that could be including standing room, again we just don't know. But in an interview with the kilowatts Franz said it seats 14 and if you need to transport more people you can just hire another one. On this build there were not any seat belts, Franz did mention how the robo van was designed to carry not just groups of people like wedding parties or going to games with friends, but also moving packages and goods which opens up a lot of possibilities. And on that point some people were saying the cybercab could be used for food delivery because there was this coffee cup on the app in the presentation. But if the cybercab goes to the Starbucks drive through how will they get the coffee into the cup holder? Someone of course would need to walk it outside and put it in the car.
Which would be a great opportunity for Tesla to partner with some food chains so hopefully more on that in the future. And back to the robo van, how about the school bus of the future? Tesla did not specify if people will be able to buy these and while it may not be a popular option for the average consumer, the fleet owner business model could make sense here as well and of course the commercial opportunity is massive. There are some frunks if you will on this vehicle, storage for luggage and other items on each end of the van. And despite the van seeming like a product that's far off into the future, On X Elon did just say that there's even more to come. So if you take a look around the reporting on the event and even the discourse on X, the doubters and haters of Tesla has seemingly hit an all time high. I knew right after the event Wall Street would not like it, but the truth is that sentiment spread far beyond just Wall Street and the media. So many people thinking that Tesla will never solve autonomy and that optimists, cybercab and the robo van are impossible and that this event was just one giant distraction from the progress that Tesla is not making.
这对特斯拉来说是一个与一些食品连锁店合作的绝佳机会,希望未来能有更多这样的合作。回到自动驾驶面包车的话题,未来的校车会是什么样的呢?特斯拉尚未说明这些车是否可以供普通消费者购买,虽然这可能不是一个受欢迎的选择,但对于车队拥有者的商业模式来说,这可能是有意义的,当然,商业机会非常巨大。这种车辆的两端都有储物空间,可以放置行李和其他物品。尽管这款面包车似乎还很遥远,Elon 在 X 上表示仍有更多惊喜即将到来。如果你查看一下有关这次活动的报道,甚至是 X 上的讨论,似乎对特斯拉的质疑和反对达到了前所未有的高峰。我知道活动结束后华尔街可能不喜欢它,但真实情况是这种情绪远不止于华尔街和媒体。许多人认为特斯拉永远无法解决自动驾驶问题,认为乐观派、赛博卡车和自动驾驶面包车根本不可能实现,并且认为这次活动只是特斯拉未能取得进展的一个巨大的干扰。
So here's a quick, cool related story. From a SpaceX employee, the absolute worst thing that someone can do at SpaceX is inform Elon that what he's asking is impossible. An employee could be telling Elon there's no way to get the cost on something like that actuator down to where he wants it or that there's simply not enough time to build a part by Elon's deadline. Elon will say fine, you're off the project. And I am now the CEO of this project. I'll do your job and be CEO of two companies at the same time. I will deliver it. What's crazy is that Elon actually does it. Every time he's fired someone and taken their job, he's delivered on whatever the project was. So I thought that story that was shared was pretty cool and the truth is there's a large group of people that feels like they're stuck waiting for Tesla to do the impossible. And therein lies the problem for many. We're still in this waiting game for Tesla's main projects to actually generate revenue and profit growth for the company.
And honestly I totally understand why shareholders are getting restless and even as a consumer, there's so much uncertainty around vehicle launches. Will Tesla actually have a more affordable vehicle next year? Of course Tesla wants to avoid the Osborne effect but it's not like a more affordable vehicle is some big secret. It's been public information for a while. And Elon and Tesla like to say that they don't care about the stock in the short term but if that's really the case then they should just be clear on the timing of the next vehicle so consumers can plan accordingly. Add in the uncertainty with tax credits and it becomes a quagmire. Plus people now know that they can buy the cybercab hopefully in 2026 so some people will definitely be waiting for that as well.
But as has been the case for years now and as Elon has reiterated numerous times, if you don't think Tesla will solve for autonomy, you should not be invested in the company. Elon could not be more clear about how he wants Tesla to be perceived and valued as a full blown autonomous robotics and energy company. Come out there we're calling this event the announcement of a massive pivot for Tesla but the way I see it this has already been in the works for years. This really isn't a new way forward it's just the announcement of the direction that the company has already been going.
The days of focusing on Tesla delivery figures have taken a back seat and Elon is quite literally betting the company on this autonomous robotic future. Quite disappointment in the short term and the lack of detail you also have to at least consider the upside scenarios here especially after Elon and SpaceX made history on Sunday. Now it's true self-driving has far more unknowns and variables than catching a giant rocket with chopsticks but the narrative was the same. That being that starship would be a failure. It would never work let alone on the first try. And guess what? Here we are Elon and his team found a way to make the impossible merely late yet again.
And sadly it's also just going to be the new normal going forward that the level of hate for Elon and Tesla will grow. This is natural as their popularity grows and they become more mainstream but a portion of it is just people who are ruled by emotions and are frustrated that Elon is ragging on their preferred political candidate. But ultimately that will all end up as noise as long as Tesla can actually solve for FSD. And if they pull that off they should be on the fast track to solving for a generalized humanoid as well.
And look for my short term investors if Tesla does come out with a more affordable vehicle in 2025 that could serve as a perfect bridge to this future Tesla is creating for us that will definitely take a few years. So if we get that roughly $25,000 Tesla with a wheel and pedals next year paired with unsupervised autonomy in a few cities and hopefully quickly scaling from there we may be entering a multi-year bull run after years of stock consolidation. As always the macro will drive the story first and foremost but focusing on what Tesla can control we may return to sales growth and a re-pricing of Tesla as an autonomous provider if they start charging for driverless rides. Tesla has already proven it can manufacture millions of profitable EVs each year and a lot of that fleet will be robotaxi ready. If the cybercap goes into production in 2026 I think there's a real chance we see a historic stock run for Tesla through the end of this decade.
And investments aside this plan will totally revolutionize transport and change the look of the roads. As I said on X I'm really not sure how anyone can actively root against this future. The ways in which that future will make life better for everyone are numerous. So personally I think there's a lot to be excited about in the near term being the next 12 months with the semi, energy, a more affordable vehicle, unsupervised FSD, project juniper, maybe the roadster. And when you factor in the upside of the longer term 5 to 10 years with what we saw at We Robot I'd still be hard pressed to find a company that has the ceiling that Tesla does. Is it risky? You betcha. But this is just who Elon is and always will be. A guy who pushes the limits is doubted the entire way but finds a way to do things that no one thought possible.
And for what it's worth I just happen to still be in the camp that believes that trend will continue. And as I've said since day 1 of this channel patience will be required. And look, as much as I'm eager for more detail and more information, it's a fact Tesla has told us the competition watches their events frame by frame. So Tesla does have to be careful about what they share publicly. And with everything riding on the product shown at We Robot we have to at least acknowledge Tesla wanting to keep the secret sauce secret. Which means yes, we have to trust that they can pull this off but they've given us a proven track record of execution.
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And as far as I know, there's only one person in the world who could do that. I mean Elon is singular in this understanding of engineering and construction and large systems and marshalling resources. Yeah, it's unbelievable. And of course, then his engineering team is extraordinary. I mean the software team is great, the networking team is great, the infrastructure team is great, you know, Elon understands this deeply. And from the moment that we decided to get to go, the planning of with our engineering team, our networking team, our infrastructure computing team, the software team, all of the preparation and advance, then all of the infrastructure, all of the logistics and the amount of technology and equipment that came in on that day and Nvidia's infrastructure and computing infrastructure and all that technology to training 19 days.
Hang on, do you know what? Did anybody sleep 24 or 7? No question that nobody slept. But first of all, 19 days is incredible. But it's also kind of nice to just take a step back and just do you know how many days 19 days is? This is a couple of weeks. And the mountain of technology, if you were to see it, is unbelievable. All of the wiring and the networking and you know, networking and video gear is very different than networking, hyperscale data centers. Okay, the number of wires that goes into one node, the back of a computer is all wires. And just getting this mountain of technology integrated and all the software incredible.
Yeah, so I think what Elon and next team did. I'm really appreciative that he acknowledges the engineering work that we did with him and the planning work and all that stuff. But what they achieved is singular. Never been done before. Just a print perspective, 100,000 GPUs, that's you know, easily the fastest supercomputer on the planet as one cluster. A supercomputer that you would build would take normally three years to plan. And then they deliver the equipment and it takes one year to get it all working. Yes. We're talking about 19 days. Wow.